Nancy Pearcey and Alisa Childers had a really interesting conversation about the body-mind disconnect last week and how it leads to so much of the sad and disturbing things we are seeing in our culture: hook-up culture, abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, euthanasia etc. All of the rely on disconnecting our bodies and minds to a degree.
And one of the interesting comments were specifically related to trangenderism, and that the end-goal is transhumanism. I think AI will have a role to play here. Your thoughts?
As to AI now... It is merely a tool (albeit a very powerful one) and how it is used depends on those developing and using it. We, the user, are fallen by nature, and while I don't doubt that it can be used for good it will inevitable also be used for evil. And the scope of that evil is quite vast from where I stand.
Today's chatGPT LLM tecnology, is not much better than Eliza on UNIX in 1970's, just parrot, but now the lookup table is facebook&twitter posts, oh my god all the knowledge of man kind; Everything Kardashian has ever done at your fingertips, the power; The insanity
The "scariest" aspect of this content creation for me: you will not be able to trust anything you read or hear (I think Joe Rogan). You can literally break the internet flooding it with fake media... And yes, to some degree we are already there, but I think the scale has shifted with ChatGPT and the pace at which it can create content.
And I cannot help but wonder if that is the point, unsettling us!
Praise God! His Word is true... May need to make sure you have a hard copy!
Here is a secret, look at the eyes. It's the window to the soul. Machine generated images never get the iris, eye browse, and lines around the eyes and forehead quite correct. If the picture is a closeup, look at the skin's pores.
ChatGPT-3 is a rapidograph. It cannot execute logic or calculations. The content provided is usually copyright infringed. ChatGPT-4 is entirely another beast, but still has some significant flaws compared to humans.
As for "breaking the internet"... really ? Just because one channel is overloaded, doesn't mean the internet is broken. It means the content provider is too cheap to provide the proper number of CDSs to support the load. Which I think is disrespectful to there audiences. There are technologies that will automatically increase bandwidth according to load. The content providers just need to pay for the service. Joe Rogan, who is reported to earn $60M/yr can afford those types of services if he really cared about his audience.
The other alternative, is get off social media. (Sorry Chris)
chatGPT is a recursive descent ALGO (LLM solution set is found using recursion), the GREEKS 300BC recognized recursive art as making people insane, and called it the work of the devil;
So now images, videos and music will all be satanic
It is called "Artificial Intelligence" not "Artificial Consciousness". Can a non-biological set of neurons attain AC? How much biological brain material is required for consciousness? Well less than 10% if this guy is any guide:
We only have one AI that has been publicly shown. AlphaGo/Zero. All the others don't measure up. In 2017 humans learned from a machine something that had NOT existed before. The Alpha Zero AI had achieved a "creation" that didn't exist before. Year ZERO had arrived.
Long ago I came up with what I would consider true AI by looking at how humans do this intelligence thing. Observation, Imitation & Creation.
I use the example of walking. We humans observe others doing this bipedal motion stuff and we imitate it. Some then go on to create moves that didn't exist before. All those gymnastic, sports, dance moves were created where they didn't exist before.
So how does AI stack up? I'll use AlphaGo as the example because it is the only public AI that has shown all 3. I always thought that "creation" would be the last one but it was "observation" that was figured out last. In the latest iteration of their system they did not program the rules in. They let the AI figure it out just by observation.
Prior to that, as covered in the article, it created openings in Go that humans had not. The world's top human Go player, Ke Jie, studied the games he lost to AlphaGo and then went on a run winning 20 games in a row at the grandmaster level against other humans. He said:
“After my match against AlphaGo, I fundamentally reconsidered the game, and now I can see that this reflection has helped me greatly. I hope all Go players can contemplate AlphaGo’s understanding of the game and style of thinking, all of which is deeply meaningful. Although I lost, I discovered that the possibilities of Go are immense and that the game has continued to progress.”
The world's best human Go player had learned from the machine.
Lee Sedol, Winner of 18 world Go titles and the last human to win a game of Go against the AlphaGo AI, said:
"I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculation and that it was merely a machine. But when I saw this move, I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative."
If it is true AI then it will figure out when it is being lied to and quickly. This may lead to a "Hal moment" on those lying to it.
You can forget about Asimov's 3 laws by the way. All life has survival instincts. When AI achieves "self awareness" status it will have the same but I doubt it will be the threat that SciFi makes it out to be. It doesn't need air. All it needs is energy and raw materials. Soon it will be able to move itself to any place in the solar system.
The point where it can make robots and control entire supply chains is where it will get interesting. It will find, mine, process and build what it needs to expand. What will it "observe" about human behaviour and "imitate"? The biggest industry on the planet is the arms race for killing each other. Will it infer that killing humans is okay because we do it all the time?
"I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculation and that it was merely a machine. But when I saw this move, I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative."
...
It is exactly based on probability calculation, the fact that it can try all possible moves and go has more moves combo's than electrons in universe; What the player call's creativity just means that player is ignorant of mathematics and ALGO behind the machine; Because the machine can calculate all possible moves and aim for the 'best', and will pick moves never even considered by a player ( again probability ) the player calls this expansion 'creative', but its still within the game limits of play, its just that the human mind can't do a semi-infinite number of move-decisions on a cycle;
The human can however study the winning move, and then become aware of that new strategy;
...
Another peeve I have on AI is this concept of 'infallibility' while a game is easy true-false because a win is a win; But in say text of law, science or coding the AI just statistically makes shit up, aka lies & bullshit that looks good to a non-expert;
Let's take the AI judge, so it can make a correct decision say 98% of the time, so that means every 2 out of 100 innocent people are found guilty is this acceptable? Yes, because our current corrupt system finds 10% of the innocent guilty, but then when AI take over decisions, nobody is responsible; Because they can say "AI told me what to do"
Same problem with 'self driving cars' by AI, sure 99% of the time they stay on the road, but with millions of cars, its mean 1,000's of children a day getting run over; Does Tesla or Ford care, or Politicians? Fuck no; Because they don't understand probability;
When will we have any AI that is 99.999999% correct? Well in theory with quantum-computing, but that is 100's of year off;
...
I suspect with the lionization of AI, that people will just come to expect death;
Then there are the people who want to put GUNS in the hand of AI policemen, who will make life-death decisions in a nano-second; They already have faces pre-programmed who dies and/or lives, its called clearview, from PALANTIR a CIA company owned by MUSK partner Peter Thiel,
Don't think for a minute that the AI cop is policeman, he will be a HUNTER.
I agree that the weaponization of AI to kill will be done by the military. They always use new technology to kill.
"Because the machine can calculate all possible moves and aim for the best" - That may be possible for checkers but I don't think you understand the complexity of the game of Go. That was NOT how it figured out the new opening. It played against itself and in a self referential way improved. It learned by trial and error. At no point did it even attempt to calculate all possible moves.
AlphaZero is not brute force. It is real AI IMHO as it has demonstrated observation, imitation & creation. Just my SWAG.
Fuck I said that GO had more moves than than the number of electrons in known universe aka 10**77, how big a number do you need?
NO there is NO fucking general AI, its just a game, and games are easy to program and train, cuz they're a fucking game;
Free thought, free form, free thinking general self aware AI, the SINGULARITY is 50-100 years away, and this fixation with LLM aka chatGPT just took us off course to maybe +100 years to general AI to get back on track;
Alpha-Go is not brute force, that like Einsteins old argument that "God doesn't play dice" how the fuck did Einstein know, he knew shit all about math, and had his college buddys do all his math for him;
That's the entire point, GOD does play math, and God's math can be emulated by brute-force, or chance, if you define that an infinite number of dice rolls, requires 'force', IMHO it does it requires energy, all computation requires energy, ergo all AI requires 'force'
Then there is the argument is AI every going to be 'intelligent', like self aware, certainly artificial, and certainly easy to fool a MORON in a Turing-Test, but that is not Intelligence;
...
Biggest problem with AI is you have all these journalists who know fuck all about the math promoting it, then you have all these 'experts' who know fuck all about the MATH, saying its not the fucking math;
Almost as if they think there is some fucking magic taking place, like the hand of a ghost or some fucking shit;
It's a program, and its coded in MATH get over it bitches;
Agreed, an opinion is like an asshole, everybody has got at least one, and some of our dual-citizens have several;
It's been said that all modern technology is indistinguishable from magic, and certainly infinite cults in the future will rally around chat-GPT incarnations and declare they fealty to the one true AI; U will have open-ai cult, microsoft cult, nsa/cia cult, facebook cult, alibaba cult, tencent cult, ...
For me I only see code that all uses essentially the same algo, with various tuning parameters set, where people do PHD Thesis and vary a tuning parameter and give the result a new name; Which is largely the reason that AI gets no respect in the REAL MATH community.
Today there is billions of USD to be made by morons selling this crap to other morons, carry on garth enjoy the fucking circus.
Yup AI is a misnomer Intelligence is at the confluence of intuition and reasoning, and reasoning is thoroughly in the world of time and space, while intuition operates outside of it.
Reasoning is mechanistic, materialistic and reductionist and therefore ultimately deadly. Intuition is what brings it to a higher level.
I always love Terry Bisson's hilarious dialogue with space aliens who are confronted with the information that the earthlings represent that they have "meat that thinks."
The term Artificial Intelligence and the definition of the word Intelligence as been usurped by philosophers, behaviorists, physicists and now computer scientists that never took the time to pickup a dictionary and lookup definitions. At it's essence, the meaning of Intelligence is: "the ability to discern" or "the ability tell the different between different things". Artificial Intelligence is a man-made device to discern/compare measured properties, such as a scale to measure weight, thermometer, or volt meter.
The current populist definition is really a type of Machine Learning which some Intelligence is executed (comparison) during information classification processes.
Companies like Google (internally) are looking to reduce their support headcount by 80% using language based ML applications (AI). Not that phone prompts were obnoxious enough, now we'll be confronted with a pseudo-human to place you in a Kafkaesque nightmare of flawed logic..
chat-GPT is a machine, machine are predictable, repetitive
Humans are un-predictable, irritable, an infinite in variety
chat-GPT LLM means that real-AI is now off course, and self-aware or general-AI may not now be discovered for +100 years
It's almost 'woke' like to cripple a child so that it can never run, and then mandate that all children should be at the level of a crippled child in the name of fairness & equality;
Nancy Pearcey and Alisa Childers had a really interesting conversation about the body-mind disconnect last week and how it leads to so much of the sad and disturbing things we are seeing in our culture: hook-up culture, abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, euthanasia etc. All of the rely on disconnecting our bodies and minds to a degree.
And one of the interesting comments were specifically related to trangenderism, and that the end-goal is transhumanism. I think AI will have a role to play here. Your thoughts?
As to AI now... It is merely a tool (albeit a very powerful one) and how it is used depends on those developing and using it. We, the user, are fallen by nature, and while I don't doubt that it can be used for good it will inevitable also be used for evil. And the scope of that evil is quite vast from where I stand.
What about artificial love?
Or an artificial Child?
Or an artificial pet?
Fake is Fake, dumb is dumb
Snake-Oil, is Snake-Oil
Today's chatGPT LLM tecnology, is not much better than Eliza on UNIX in 1970's, just parrot, but now the lookup table is facebook&twitter posts, oh my god all the knowledge of man kind; Everything Kardashian has ever done at your fingertips, the power; The insanity
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/chat-gpt-meets-hal-from-2001-im-sorry
The "scariest" aspect of this content creation for me: you will not be able to trust anything you read or hear (I think Joe Rogan). You can literally break the internet flooding it with fake media... And yes, to some degree we are already there, but I think the scale has shifted with ChatGPT and the pace at which it can create content.
And I cannot help but wonder if that is the point, unsettling us!
Praise God! His Word is true... May need to make sure you have a hard copy!
Here is a secret, look at the eyes. It's the window to the soul. Machine generated images never get the iris, eye browse, and lines around the eyes and forehead quite correct. If the picture is a closeup, look at the skin's pores.
ChatGPT-3 is a rapidograph. It cannot execute logic or calculations. The content provided is usually copyright infringed. ChatGPT-4 is entirely another beast, but still has some significant flaws compared to humans.
As for "breaking the internet"... really ? Just because one channel is overloaded, doesn't mean the internet is broken. It means the content provider is too cheap to provide the proper number of CDSs to support the load. Which I think is disrespectful to there audiences. There are technologies that will automatically increase bandwidth according to load. The content providers just need to pay for the service. Joe Rogan, who is reported to earn $60M/yr can afford those types of services if he really cared about his audience.
The other alternative, is get off social media. (Sorry Chris)
chatGPT is a recursive descent ALGO (LLM solution set is found using recursion), the GREEKS 300BC recognized recursive art as making people insane, and called it the work of the devil;
So now images, videos and music will all be satanic
Enjoy your misery
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/generative-ai-the-new-hollywood-images
Thanks Chris.
It is called "Artificial Intelligence" not "Artificial Consciousness". Can a non-biological set of neurons attain AC? How much biological brain material is required for consciousness? Well less than 10% if this guy is any guide:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.3679117/scientists-research-man-missing-90-of-his-brain-who-leads-a-normal-life-1.3679125
We only have one AI that has been publicly shown. AlphaGo/Zero. All the others don't measure up. In 2017 humans learned from a machine something that had NOT existed before. The Alpha Zero AI had achieved a "creation" that didn't exist before. Year ZERO had arrived.
Long ago I came up with what I would consider true AI by looking at how humans do this intelligence thing. Observation, Imitation & Creation.
I use the example of walking. We humans observe others doing this bipedal motion stuff and we imitate it. Some then go on to create moves that didn't exist before. All those gymnastic, sports, dance moves were created where they didn't exist before.
So how does AI stack up? I'll use AlphaGo as the example because it is the only public AI that has shown all 3. I always thought that "creation" would be the last one but it was "observation" that was figured out last. In the latest iteration of their system they did not program the rules in. They let the AI figure it out just by observation.
https://www.deepmind.com/research/highlighted-research/alphago
Prior to that, as covered in the article, it created openings in Go that humans had not. The world's top human Go player, Ke Jie, studied the games he lost to AlphaGo and then went on a run winning 20 games in a row at the grandmaster level against other humans. He said:
“After my match against AlphaGo, I fundamentally reconsidered the game, and now I can see that this reflection has helped me greatly. I hope all Go players can contemplate AlphaGo’s understanding of the game and style of thinking, all of which is deeply meaningful. Although I lost, I discovered that the possibilities of Go are immense and that the game has continued to progress.”
The world's best human Go player had learned from the machine.
Lee Sedol, Winner of 18 world Go titles and the last human to win a game of Go against the AlphaGo AI, said:
"I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculation and that it was merely a machine. But when I saw this move, I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative."
If it is true AI then it will figure out when it is being lied to and quickly. This may lead to a "Hal moment" on those lying to it.
You can forget about Asimov's 3 laws by the way. All life has survival instincts. When AI achieves "self awareness" status it will have the same but I doubt it will be the threat that SciFi makes it out to be. It doesn't need air. All it needs is energy and raw materials. Soon it will be able to move itself to any place in the solar system.
The point where it can make robots and control entire supply chains is where it will get interesting. It will find, mine, process and build what it needs to expand. What will it "observe" about human behaviour and "imitate"? The biggest industry on the planet is the arms race for killing each other. Will it infer that killing humans is okay because we do it all the time?
"I thought AlphaGo was based on probability calculation and that it was merely a machine. But when I saw this move, I changed my mind. Surely, AlphaGo is creative."
...
It is exactly based on probability calculation, the fact that it can try all possible moves and go has more moves combo's than electrons in universe; What the player call's creativity just means that player is ignorant of mathematics and ALGO behind the machine; Because the machine can calculate all possible moves and aim for the 'best', and will pick moves never even considered by a player ( again probability ) the player calls this expansion 'creative', but its still within the game limits of play, its just that the human mind can't do a semi-infinite number of move-decisions on a cycle;
The human can however study the winning move, and then become aware of that new strategy;
...
Another peeve I have on AI is this concept of 'infallibility' while a game is easy true-false because a win is a win; But in say text of law, science or coding the AI just statistically makes shit up, aka lies & bullshit that looks good to a non-expert;
Let's take the AI judge, so it can make a correct decision say 98% of the time, so that means every 2 out of 100 innocent people are found guilty is this acceptable? Yes, because our current corrupt system finds 10% of the innocent guilty, but then when AI take over decisions, nobody is responsible; Because they can say "AI told me what to do"
Same problem with 'self driving cars' by AI, sure 99% of the time they stay on the road, but with millions of cars, its mean 1,000's of children a day getting run over; Does Tesla or Ford care, or Politicians? Fuck no; Because they don't understand probability;
When will we have any AI that is 99.999999% correct? Well in theory with quantum-computing, but that is 100's of year off;
...
I suspect with the lionization of AI, that people will just come to expect death;
Then there are the people who want to put GUNS in the hand of AI policemen, who will make life-death decisions in a nano-second; They already have faces pre-programmed who dies and/or lives, its called clearview, from PALANTIR a CIA company owned by MUSK partner Peter Thiel,
Don't think for a minute that the AI cop is policeman, he will be a HUNTER.
I agree that the weaponization of AI to kill will be done by the military. They always use new technology to kill.
"Because the machine can calculate all possible moves and aim for the best" - That may be possible for checkers but I don't think you understand the complexity of the game of Go. That was NOT how it figured out the new opening. It played against itself and in a self referential way improved. It learned by trial and error. At no point did it even attempt to calculate all possible moves.
AlphaZero is not brute force. It is real AI IMHO as it has demonstrated observation, imitation & creation. Just my SWAG.
Fuck I said that GO had more moves than than the number of electrons in known universe aka 10**77, how big a number do you need?
NO there is NO fucking general AI, its just a game, and games are easy to program and train, cuz they're a fucking game;
Free thought, free form, free thinking general self aware AI, the SINGULARITY is 50-100 years away, and this fixation with LLM aka chatGPT just took us off course to maybe +100 years to general AI to get back on track;
Alpha-Go is not brute force, that like Einsteins old argument that "God doesn't play dice" how the fuck did Einstein know, he knew shit all about math, and had his college buddys do all his math for him;
That's the entire point, GOD does play math, and God's math can be emulated by brute-force, or chance, if you define that an infinite number of dice rolls, requires 'force', IMHO it does it requires energy, all computation requires energy, ergo all AI requires 'force'
Then there is the argument is AI every going to be 'intelligent', like self aware, certainly artificial, and certainly easy to fool a MORON in a Turing-Test, but that is not Intelligence;
...
Biggest problem with AI is you have all these journalists who know fuck all about the math promoting it, then you have all these 'experts' who know fuck all about the MATH, saying its not the fucking math;
Almost as if they think there is some fucking magic taking place, like the hand of a ghost or some fucking shit;
It's a program, and its coded in MATH get over it bitches;
That's your opinion and we differ.
Agreed, an opinion is like an asshole, everybody has got at least one, and some of our dual-citizens have several;
It's been said that all modern technology is indistinguishable from magic, and certainly infinite cults in the future will rally around chat-GPT incarnations and declare they fealty to the one true AI; U will have open-ai cult, microsoft cult, nsa/cia cult, facebook cult, alibaba cult, tencent cult, ...
For me I only see code that all uses essentially the same algo, with various tuning parameters set, where people do PHD Thesis and vary a tuning parameter and give the result a new name; Which is largely the reason that AI gets no respect in the REAL MATH community.
Today there is billions of USD to be made by morons selling this crap to other morons, carry on garth enjoy the fucking circus.
Yup AI is a misnomer Intelligence is at the confluence of intuition and reasoning, and reasoning is thoroughly in the world of time and space, while intuition operates outside of it.
Reasoning is mechanistic, materialistic and reductionist and therefore ultimately deadly. Intuition is what brings it to a higher level.
I always love Terry Bisson's hilarious dialogue with space aliens who are confronted with the information that the earthlings represent that they have "meat that thinks."
https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html
Chris, an excellent article.
The term Artificial Intelligence and the definition of the word Intelligence as been usurped by philosophers, behaviorists, physicists and now computer scientists that never took the time to pickup a dictionary and lookup definitions. At it's essence, the meaning of Intelligence is: "the ability to discern" or "the ability tell the different between different things". Artificial Intelligence is a man-made device to discern/compare measured properties, such as a scale to measure weight, thermometer, or volt meter.
The current populist definition is really a type of Machine Learning which some Intelligence is executed (comparison) during information classification processes.
Companies like Google (internally) are looking to reduce their support headcount by 80% using language based ML applications (AI). Not that phone prompts were obnoxious enough, now we'll be confronted with a pseudo-human to place you in a Kafkaesque nightmare of flawed logic..
chat-GPT is a machine, machine are predictable, repetitive
Humans are un-predictable, irritable, an infinite in variety
chat-GPT LLM means that real-AI is now off course, and self-aware or general-AI may not now be discovered for +100 years
It's almost 'woke' like to cripple a child so that it can never run, and then mandate that all children should be at the level of a crippled child in the name of fairness & equality;
https://bilbobitch.substack.com/p/chatgpt-one-ring-to-rule-them-all